Your Joyful Order With Leslie Martinez
Ever wish you had your own personal cheerleader or coach in your ear, whispering encouraging words? Telling you how to kick butt in life, plus showing you how to get there? That’s exactly what you’ll get when you tune into Your Joyful Order Podcast. Each week you’ll get a mixture of preaching and teaching from your host Leslie Martinez who is a Certified Life Coach, Business Owner, Wife and Mom. Listen along for some entertaining real talk about life, business and relationships. Leslie wants to help you to reach your goals and motivate you to live out your God given purpose, by bringing you insightful knowledge, resources and sharing some tips and tricks to take action. No topic is off the table here, just know that faith will always be the foundation of our conversations and an occasional kick in the butt might come in the most loving way! Get ready to take your life to the next level and learn how to chase joy!
Your Joyful Order With Leslie Martinez
#114-Complacency is the Enemy of Leadership with Israel Duran
Ever felt that gnawing suspicion that you're capable of more, but something invisible is holding you back? That barrier might be complacency—leadership's silent killer.
In this illuminating conversation, Israel Duran shares the powerful journey that transformed him from a doubtful corporate employee to a business growth partner who empowers purpose-driven entrepreneurs worldwide. Through personal tragedy and a near-fatal car accident that became his catalyst for change, Israel discovered that our greatest obstacles often lie within ourselves.
"Pride is rooted in selfishness, fear, and entitlement," Israel reveals, explaining how these hidden barriers prevent true growth. Drawing from biblical wisdom and his work with high-level entrepreneurs, he introduces the revolutionary "leaky bucket principle"—a metaphor that explains why pursuing bigger opportunities without addressing your fundamental leaks leads to disappointment rather than success.
You'll discover why most leaders can't identify their own blind spots (hint: "it's hard to see the label when you're inside the jar"), and how surrounding yourself with the right mentors can propel you forward exponentially. Israel's journey from having zero billionaires in his network to five didn't happen by chasing wealth, but by expanding his belief in what was possible for himself.
Whether you're struggling with self-doubt, feeling stuck at your current level, or sensing a divine nudge toward something greater, this episode provides the mindset shifts and practical insights needed to break free from complacency. The path to extraordinary leadership begins not with more resources, but with addressing the internal barriers that limit your potential.
Ready to fix your leaks and step into your fullest calling? This conversation will challenge you to examine where you've been playing small and inspire you to embrace the growth that awaits on the other side of comfort. Because as Israel reminds us: "Before you can, you must first believe that you can."
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Today's episode is for all the leaders, the visionaries and entrepreneurs who feel called to make an impact. But you might be unknowingly holding yourself back. The truth is, complacency is the enemy of leadership, and if we're not growing, we're falling behind. So how do we keep pushing forward, stepping into our purpose and leading with true influence? Today, my guest is Israel Duran, a sought-after business growth partner, speaker and trainer. Israel has empowered thousands of purpose-driven entrepreneurs around the world, helping them scale profitable businesses that don't just generate revenue but create real impact. With his proven three-step process, he helps leaders gain clarity, develop effective solutions and unlock their fullest potential. If you're a visionary, serious about growth and leadership, especially through the power of speaking, then Israel is the partner for you. I can't wait for this conversation, so let's get ready to dive in.
Speaker 1:Hey everyone, I'm Leslie Martinez and you're listening to your Joyful Order podcast. Each week, I will bring you joyful stories that will motivate and inspire you and, at the same time, bring order to your everyday life. Let's just say the show will be and inspire you and, at the same time, bring order to your everyday life. Let's just say the show will be a mixture of preaching and teaching, with a kick of motivation from your girl here. Welcome to your Joyful Order podcast. Israel. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2:It's a blessing to be on here with you, Leslie.
Speaker 1:I am so excited to have you here today. Now, before we get started into today's topic, I'd love for you just to share a little bit about your testimony and what led you to where you are today, and that is helping leaders to unlock their potential and just to create real impact. So I'd love for you to share with the audience kind of where God brought you, because I listened to your testimony, I absolutely loved it and I know it'll have a great impact on a listener today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know I have a philosophy, Leslie, that I teach people that what you typically didn't have as a child, you value as an adult, and I'm going to start my testimony with sharing that. There were four specific things that I wanted as a child that I did not have, that now I value as an adult, and that's why, with our work of empowering speakers, entrepreneurs and leaders, these four things come into play. But let me just tell you a quick story about my dad. My dad's name is Domingo Dudon. My dad came here with my mom and my dad one day was having chest pains on his left side and one day my mom told him to go to the ER because my mom's a doctor in Dominican Republic but she wasn't able to transfer the license over because of the English barrier. But my mom told my dad, go to the ER and get yourself checked out. So my dad goes to the ER. This was back in 1993. And my dad spent about three and a half hours at the ER. Unfortunately, they didn't attend him because they had other, more serious issues to attend to at the time. So my dad went back home and, Leslie, he had what the medical community called a STEMI. He had a massive heart attack and he died alone. My mom found him in that condition In Israel. David Duran I was only about three months when my dad passed and growing up I was seeking for these four things from my dad, who I didn't know, didn't really build a relationship with him because he died.
Speaker 2:But those four things are really what shapes everything I do. And those four things are number one I wanted identity. We talked a little bit before the podcast about identity. I wanted purpose, I wanted to know why I was here. Number three I wanted vision and I also wanted my voice, because I teach people that you get your voice from your vision and you get your vision from the voids that you see in the world. And then, number four I wanted a custom plan. So those four things. I've been able to find those four things through Christ and in the work I do in business, I seek to impart those four things with the people that we work with and we connect with.
Speaker 1:Wow and we connect with, to look at, you know kind of your past and understanding how your past influences your present and even your future, like where you're going to Now. I want you to share a little bit also Israel, if you can. You had a very significant incident in your adulthood that kind of shaped like or it allowed you to finally take action on what God had put into you. Would you mind sharing a little bit about that story as well?
Speaker 2:A hundred percent. So you're referring to what I call the catalyst.
Speaker 1:Yes, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2:And that was my car accident that I got in 2018. I actually was in this car accident where, when I came out of the car, an 18-wheeler stopped behind me. By the way, it was a freak accident. I was going about 75 miles per hour, I crossed all three lanes of the highway and my car hits perfectly on the railing and I miss all these 18-wheelers, all these cars. It's crazy. The railing and I miss all these 18 wheelers, all these cars. It's crazy.
Speaker 2:And then, when I crash, there was an 18 wheeler that stopped behind me and a smaller little car that stopped in front of me, and in the smaller car, the gentleman comes out and runs to my car to see if I'm okay. He doesn't ask me if I'm okay. When he sees me outside of the car, he says dude, you hit that railing perfectly. If you would have hit that railing any other way, your car would have flipped over and gone into the lake. And then, when this man says this to me, it was like I could hear the internal voice of God telling me that it was time to release what he put inside of me. And within three weeks from that car accident, I launched my first book in two languages, a book that was supposed to be released a year and a half later, and I launched my third business in three days from that car accident. And it's made all the difference in my life, leslie, because I was in my own way.
Speaker 1:And that car accident allowed for me to get out of my own way, wow, okay, there's so much to unpack here because you're speaking to me right now, israel, you were in your own way. Can you go a little bit into that, because I want the listeners to know what it is? I'm in my own way. I know I'm in my own way, but I want the listeners to know what exactly that means and what struggles were you having at that time that you were getting in your own way?
Speaker 2:Well, I love the question. I love the humility, Leslie, because most people, we all, have blind spots. I call it the law of the leak or the law of constraint, which I could talk a little bit later. But I had blind spots and my blind spot was my mindset. You know, I knew God was calling me because at the age of seven, I drowned in a pool in Dominican Republic as well, and I had that experience. I talk about it during my TEDx talk and I believe that God sent actually an angel to pull me out the water because when I turned around to see who it was, there was no one to be found. And from that moment, at the age of seven, I felt like I had a connection with God, that I would speak and God would hear me, and then I would hear him. As weird as that sounds, but I still had doubts. Even with what I went through as a child, even with God sparing me as a child, where it was clearly his hand, I still had doubts and it was holding me back. You see, there's another saying that says the path is smooth. Why do we throw stones at it? I was throwing stones in my own path.
Speaker 2:I was making a lot of money at the time, or what I thought was a lot of money. Now, what I used to make in a year, I make in a month and in a week and sometimes even in a day. But I thought it was a lot of money back then. It was a six-figure job. So I knew God was calling me. But I had this corporate job, had some businesses on the side, but I was still doubting. I was like God, are you really calling me to leave this thing and go full force with what you're calling? So I was in that mindset.
Speaker 2:And then, when a car accident came, full force was what you're calling, right? So I was in that mindset. And then, when a car accident came, really just shift to me. And God was just like come on, what I put inside of you, it's time to come out.
Speaker 2:And I wish I could say that, yeah, I launched my book, I launched my third business, but I was still for some months after that. I still held on to the full-time opportunity as well. And then God had manifested a Judas. Because I learned this I said if God was like Israel, if you don't want to move, then I'm going to move some things for you, Get you uncomfortable, to push you into what I'm calling you to do. So God literally manifested a man named Jude at the job that I was in to. Literally the guy's name was Jude to go through a betrayal process where they were trying to betray me in the company that I helped build the department I helped build and I took it as a sign for God to tell me it's time to go full force. And the rest is history.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Wow, wow, so much to unpack even there too. And just how, when you delay obedience right, oftentimes we delay being obedient to God we know that God is calling us up and out to do something, to leave, to change paths, and we doubt, like you said, you had a lot of doubt like, wait, I'm comfortable here. This six-figure income is comfortable, it allows me to live the lifestyle that I have. God, you're calling me to something that is unknown and when we delay our obedience, god will bring someone, like you said that Judas right, god will push you out in a way that's like okay, wait a minute, and we think that it's to harm us, but it's really to elevate us to the next level. And I mean, I can sit and go through a list of things that have happened like that.
Speaker 1:And I had a similar kind of thing that took place with me, an identity shift also that and that was God nudging me out of actually my full-time ministry job at that time because I had gotten complacent, I had gotten comfortable and I had began to identify who I was in Christ with that role. And this is where I want to get into our topic of becoming complacent Israel, because I think that is probably one of the biggest challenges of leadership and being obedient to what God is calling us to, because we just become complacent where we're at. So you've worked with so many entrepreneurs and leaders. What are some of the common signs that you have seen when a leader has become complacent?
Speaker 2:seen when a leader has become complacent. Love the question, leslie. I would say the first or the number one sign or barrier that really is a stronghold to complacency is pride. Let me explain why. Pride is rooted in selfishness and fear and entitlement in selfishness and fear and entitlement. And Dr Miles Monroe, one of my mentors, who passed in 2014,. He used to say that your last success is your worst enemy. And I love that because sometimes we as leaders, it doesn't matter what area of influence whether it's in faith and spirituality, like you, in ministry, or someone that's in business, like you with your life coach, life coaching business, or someone that's in media or arts and entertainment, or someone that's in government or family or education right, it doesn't matter what mountain of influence they're called to serve. If we have pride, sense of entitlement, selfishness that will limit the purpose that we can really fulfill in our calling Like it doesn't matter what you've accomplished. We have to always be able to be in a position where we can receive from others and allow others to wash our feet so we can grow. And what do I mean by washing feet?
Speaker 2:Peter had a very interesting discussion with Jesus. If I could just speak about the history of Simon, peter and Jesus of Nazareth. In the Last Supper, which was really the feast of Passover that Jesus of Nazareth and his 12 disciples were celebrating, jesus had made a declaration that he was going to wash his disciples' feet, and Peter had stood up and said absolutely not, you're not going to wash my feet. And then Jesus said this to him, which is really interesting and I want you guys to pay attention to this he said, peter, it sounds good. Right, you sound good, but, peter, if you don't let me wash your feet, you will have no part in me, no place in me. Now, that word part in place is a very important word. That word part in place is connected to the word impartation, in other words to become one.
Speaker 2:So we as leaders, especially when we're like we have some success, or we're running, or we have some, we think we have some success and we've been doing something for a while, we may get to the place where we just have a pride, where we say we can't receive from anyone and we're complacent or we feel entitled or we feel better than that. We can miss an impartation that can literally catapult us to the next level. So that's why I say pride is the number one thing that will create your barrier and create a stronghold for you to remain complacent. And that's exactly what was in my life, and God is still working with all of us and me, and I had to get to a point where I was like you know what, lord, it's okay that I don't know everything and I need to learn, and I need to have somebody else wash my feet because I need to learn. I got to sit down and learn from somebody else that has done what I want to do to continue, so I can continue to grow and develop.
Speaker 1:Yes, you're preaching Israel. You are preaching so dang good. You know, that's one of my I mean, I have so many favorite stories but it's such a humbling story of Peter doing that and especially like this is Jesus right, we worship him, we honor him, we welcome him and he taught us so well with stories like that, you know, and there's so many other parables that align with just his teachings to allow us to relate to them. But the disciples, they had such a special privilege in being firsthand, they weren't just being taught, they were being shown and given an example of it.
Speaker 1:And pride is a huge, a huge thing that I really think people struggle with and not even realizing that it's pride people struggle with and not even realizing that it's pride. Like the fact that you brought up that story of Peter, I think many people would miss that he was being prideful in that. I think that they were looking at like no, they were like trying to honor. He was trying to honor Jesus right. Like you're not going to wash my feet, I'm going to wash your feet if anything, jesus right. Like you're not going to wash my feet, I'm going to wash your feet if anything. But when you said that, right now. I'm like you know I personally would have never had said that he was being prideful, but the way you said it it's like he is, he was. There was some pride in that and pride is you had said before and I was trying to write it down you said pride can be rooted in fear, and you had also said something else.
Speaker 2:Selfishness, selfishness. There you go the reason why we can tell that it was pride, because if it was honor and if it was humility, jesus wouldn't have responded the way he did. Yes, yes, jesus said if you don't let me wash your feet he literally said this you will have no part or place in me. The first thing that the enemy, lucifer, did was pride, and that's what he. The Bible says that pride always comes before the fall. In other words, there's a mindset of pride that will come before the fall, that will try to create a stronghold in someone's life before the fall actually happens. I understand this because I've lived it right. That's why I'm speaking from a point of revelation and not from a point of like. Somebody taught me it, if that makes sense. Yes, and we could also tell it's pride from what Jesus said after or what Peter said after. Excuse me, peter said, because he got the message he understood. He said no, don't only wash my feet, wash my hands and my head. And I'm a believer, leslie, that I'm a big believer that if Peter didn't allow himself to wash his feet or allow Jesus to wash his feet, he wouldn't have been able to be empowered to speak at the day of Pentecost, where over 3,000 souls were touched.
Speaker 2:I run this speaker training. It's called Service of Speak, king Jesus, three Days of Breakthrough, and one of the main things that I teach at that event because I train leaders and business owners and pastors to grow their ministries, grow their businesses online, leveraging the service of speaking and that's a big point that we emphasize on and like is making sure that you get your feet washed, because you are only as great as the people you learn from and we as speakers. Leslie, even on your beautiful podcast show, when you're speaking and you're interviewing guests, you are literally washing the minds, the hands and the feet of the people that are listening to you guys through your words, and that's the science of speaking and really stepping into that impact which I believe everyone, especially if you're listening to this podcast you're called to make.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh yes, so good, so good. Israel, Now, kind of going on what you were talking about right here, about what you teach the leaders and stuff, now you teach leaders how to leverage their expertise, like to grow their business and to have influence, and influence is a huge thing, you know, especially in this world that we live in today, where social media you have like influencers, in this world that we live in today, where social media you have like influencers. But we were caught, like those of us that you know are really feeling led to follow the calling that God has put in our lives. We have been called to influence in a different type of way and I want to just sit there for a little bit because you teach leaders how to influence and teaching them how to grow in a way that is going to impact people purposefully. So how can you step out of that complacency and directly impact these leaders on a scale to help them to grow and elevate and to influence at the God-driven level?
Speaker 2:That's an amazing question and I want to answer it with sharing a story and a metaphor.
Speaker 2:Taking a step back, just speak here, because I feel this in the spirit. Let's say you're a business owner, minister, individual listening to this right now and you really want to unlock influence, right, and you want, like to leslie's point, you want to really grow. What if I said to you that there's like a secret, like in the building of success? Right, and let's say you're at like level number five, but you want to get to like level 50, you want to like 10X? What if I said there's a secret key or principle or law that you can learn to, specifically, that will give you access to, like a secret elevator, so you don't have to go through all the pain of going through six, seven, eight, nine, right, but you can literally shoot up all the way to 50. Like what if there was a key that you can learn and a principle that you can literally shoot up all the way to 50. Like what if there was a key that you can learn and a principle that you can implement? Well, that's exactly why I want to teach you this story and this metaphor, because it's going to allow you to see it in a way of discovery for those listening. So I want you to imagine, leslie, there's a huge ocean and you live in SoCal, so you're not too far from the beach. But I want you to imagine that there's a huge ocean. You live in SoCal, so you're not too far from the beach. But I want you to imagine that there's a huge ocean and we're going to put a name on this ocean. We're going to call it the Beach of Abundance. And in this Beach of Abundance, I want you to think of all the sales, all the opportunities, all the wealth, all the abundance that you desire is in that beach, okay, all the abundance that you desire is in that beach, okay.
Speaker 2:And then I want you to imagine perfect sand, this amazing sand, and it's kind of tilted like almost like a hill, if you will, and there's about 100 feet distance from the water to where this table is, this nice table, and on this table there's a bunch of different containers. You have small containers, you have maybe some bigger containers, and then you have some medium-sized containers and then you have some really, really big containers all on this table, right? Does that make sense? Gotcha, but let's say that in each container. They all have one thing in common, and that each container has a hole inside of it. It has a leak.
Speaker 2:Okay, and then I want you to imagine now, on the side of the table, there's this huge bucket that has infinite capacity to literally store everything that's in the ocean and more. Okay, now I want you to imagine, leslie now, because you're here with me and if you're listening to this I want you to imagine that it's you you going to that table and you picking a container, and then you walking down the 100 feet towards the beach and you go to the water, you open up your container and now you pour in water into the container I'm going somewhere with this and then, let's say, you walk back up to 100 feet back to the table, and then you're about to transfer the water that's in your container inside of this bucket that has infinite capacity. What do you think you're going to find in the container, leslie?
Speaker 1:Nothing, because you leaked it all out before you got there. There's a hole in it.
Speaker 2:Exactly because there's a hole in it. Now, what if you said you know what? This container is dumb and you throw the container and then you go back to the table and you say let me get a bigger container. You go down to the ocean, you do the same thing. You come to the bucket. You walk to 100 feet.
Speaker 2:You go to the bucket and you go to transfer the water and then you look and you're like you're surprised because why? There's nothing there? And you're like, wait a second, this thing has a hole as well, right, yeah? And then you say, no, this container must be broke. You throw the container and then you find the biggest container that you can on that table and you pick it up and then you walk down the sand, you go all the way to the beach and then you go to the beach, you go to pick up the water and then you walk up. You're really happy. Now. You're like, yeah, this time it's going to work, and you're really happy. And then you're about to go transfer the water into the bucket and you look and you find what do you find?
Speaker 1:There's not everything there, because you poured it all out walking. There. There's a hole.
Speaker 2:A hundred percent. Here's the point To every business, to every leader, we all have a leak, we all have a hole. And we've been sold a narrative, leslie, because God says you have to be faithful with the little first and then he'll bless you with much. What is he saying? You got to first identify the leaks, plug them in and then I'll bless you with much. Because we live in a world of everybody saying you just need more, you just need more sales, you need more abundance, you need more and more. And they sell you this hype Again.
Speaker 2:I'm in the highest level of coaching programs you can think of in the world I have. Some of my mentors are not at the nine figure level, they're at the 10 figure plus level. More is not always the answer. More is the answer to scale your company, scale your impact, but you kind of simultaneously identify your leaks. When you're able to do both at the same time, that's when you'll pivot from fifth floor all the way to the 50th floor. So, leslie, I love the question about influence, but that question is really a custom question, depending on who the individual is and what their goals are and what their specific gaps are. Now I would love to just give a blanket statement, like a lot of people do, but in order to really help people, we got to meet them where they're at. That's why I like to take the time of educating people before I give recommendations, because everybody's different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, that's so good. And I'm going to tell you just like, personally, for me, looking for the leaks isn't fun, israel. It's not something that we want to do, right, we don't want to look at the leaks, and I will come from it at a, from a personal level, of me having to go and look for those leaks myself. Those leaks aren't always what you think they will be. Some of those leaks are really really deep leaks or really big leaks that you didn't even know were there and they aren't business related leaks, like my business framework, and I'm just giving an example my business framework and structure. Let's say it's there. I personally know it's not, I know it needs work, okay. But I'm just saying like, let's say that's there. I personally know it's not, I know it needs work, okay. But I'm just saying like, let's say that my business framework is there, but personally, emotionally, spiritually, I have leaks all over the place. My framework for my business isn't there. But who I need to be to show up for that business? That's where the leaks are.
Speaker 1:And, like you said, some people have, you know, bigger, larger containers. Others are small, like some of us that are just starting out are small, and we're looking at these people that have bigger containers, Like, well, bigger is better, I think those bigger and better. Like there's more leaks there than you can even imagine. You know, because you have so much that you're trying to get your hand. The bigger is not always better, but it's a challenge to self-reflect. And I think that's where the complacency comes in in scaling to the next level, because we are comfortable where we're at and we don't want to do the work to fix those leaks.
Speaker 1:And those leaks can be, you know, the pride, right, it could be feelings of unworthiness, lack of confidence, there can be anger, there can be resentment, there can be unforgiveness, there can be all kinds of leaks just splurting out but not realizing how that impacts where God is calling us and those different size containers that we could be like bringing in. We got to fix the leaks in ourselves first. You know, even before we start to fix those leaks, like in the business and that would be like finances, you know do you have proper systems in place to run a business? Like, what is your online presence? Like, you know all of that stuff, right, you coaching so many entrepreneurs? And stuff Like what have you seen Israel? What have you seen. That has been some of the most maybe common leaks, so to say, since we're kind of using that analogy that you've seen that people have to fix in order to scale their leadership and their businesses.
Speaker 2:Well, here's the amazing principle right that I'll share, to give a foundation before answering the question. It's hard to see the label. This is one of our brands. I Am Impact. It's hard to see the label when I'm inside of the jar. Israel David Duran.
Speaker 2:I'm very good at helping others. People fly out, they spend a day with me, they come to our events for me to literally identify their leaks, whether that's in their branding, marketing, sales operations, to get them to go to the next level, and they pay a significant amount of money to spend that day with me, but they walk away with so much more. I'm very objective with helping others, but when it comes to helping Israel Durant, I need coaches, mentors, team members, advisors, advisors right, because I'm too close to myself. So the number one leak or the number one mindset shift that needs to happen, is being open to have other people help you, because you are only as great as the people you learn from and we all have blind spots. But the person that you accept as your coach, advisor, pastor, teacher, that person is enough for you. It doesn't have to be a known name. It can literally just be someone that you accept that has done what you want to do, that has already maybe gone ahead of you in a certain area and that can help see things that you maybe don't see. It can help that you maybe don't see. It can help you save time and help you cover those leaks.
Speaker 2:I'll give a really big, simple one. Right, we have a framework. It's a proprietary framework, it's called the Service of Speaking Framework and we have five S's that we go through that we help people identify where their gaps may be, their leaks. Why? Because most people want to get on more stages, they want more leads, they want more sales.
Speaker 2:But then I ask them I'm like do you have this in place? Do you have that in place? Do you know? I don't have none of that in place. I'm like so, you have none of that in place, but you want to now scale to the moon. You know you didn't even have an email list set up. You know you want to now get on a 10X platform. Right, we got to get those things in order first. So we do have a framework that we kind of showcase and teach on helping people identify where their gaps are. But it really does start with being open to have somebody else speak into your life, being open to help have somebody else wash your feet, like you being coachable as simple as that sounds, but that's where it starts.
Speaker 1:So good and a lot of people. That goes back to the whole pride thing that I don't need help. I can do it myself Right, as a fellow coach here, like I, have seen the impact that seeking help has done for me. You know, going to masterminds, being coached, therapy intensives. I am having an education background and being a teacher for so long. I'm a lifelong learner. I am always looking to learn and meet people. This is partly why I wanted to do a podcast, because I'm like, hey, always looking to learn and meet people. This is partly why I wanted to do a podcast, because I'm like, hey, I get to learn from other people. I get to have people pour into me and I get to ask them like questions that I'd want to ask this person because I want to learn from them. And I see that there.
Speaker 1:You know there's people out there that don't see the value in it, like you and I would, because they don't understand the impact and the significance that getting help, getting coached, learning from other people, can have on you. And we can go back to the Bible just the same story that you were sharing, right, israel, like Jesus, had these 12 disciples follow him. He taught them. He's like come, follow me and I will make you fishers of men. Right, I'm going to teach you everything that I know. I'm going to be an example for you. You're going to walk with me, you're going to, you know, break bread with me and you're going to learn from me because one day I'm going to leave and you're going to have to carry it out. One day I'm going to leave and you're going to have to carry it out, and there's so much value in that, like in following people to see, to learn, to grow, to scale, and there's someone out there that's listening right now.
Speaker 1:That has maybe been teetering with that Like I just don't know where to go for help. I don't know who, I don't know if it's worth the investment, and I want you to speak to those people. What would you tell them? Israel?
Speaker 2:I would tell them that invest in who you want to become, and those that are unwilling to pay are unwilling to charge. God says that a tree will multiply and produce after its kind. So when you become the buyer that you want to attract, that's exactly what happens. When you become the person you alluded to this earlier you literally attract that person. And the other shift that I would say is let me tell a quick vision that I had.
Speaker 2:Well, I had several visions. I remember for a season, leslie, I was having dreams of me sitting down with billionaires, like billionaires that I know in the flesh, like that everybody would know right, and some of these billionaires I didn't like. I was like I don't like this guy. Wait a second, god, why do you keep showing me this right? And I would be in a room where I would be speaking into their life and they would be speaking into my life and I would be showing them like doing my thing. And I just woke up one day out of a dream and I was like God, why do I keep seeing these dreams? Like it was multiple visions, like I'm not saying one or two or three, it was like multiple. And one day I had a friend of mine. He moves into prophetic. He said to me he said, israel, the reason why you're having those dreams is because God wants, he wants you to start to believe that you're going to be in those rooms giving those billionaires advice and also receiving advice before it happens so you can walk in it. And I said you know what? I'm going to start to believe that I can, because before you can, you first must believe that you can. You first must believe number one that you deserve to have the success, that you are worth the investment, because some people don't even think they're worth investing. It's not about them investing in somebody else, they don't believe that they're worth it. So I started to have this mindset shift, leslie, and at the time I had zero billionaires in my network. Today I have five billionaires in my network that I personally have their numbers.
Speaker 2:I share this because money's not everything. But it's not even about the money, it's about the knowledge. The knowledge is the key. The Bible says buy the truth and sell it, not also wisdom, understanding and knowledge. The knowledge is what's key. And most people are held back under six figures or low six figures or even high six figures, because it's not that they lack integrity or calling or being. They just lack the knowledge. And many times, people don't understand that in order to unlock that knowledge, they have to invest to unlock that knowledge right, like I did, like many of us have. So that's what I would say to people is, if you feel that you're called to make an impact, you're going to need to have resources and in order to create resources, you're going to have to believe in yourself and move in a direction of your calling.
Speaker 1:You're going to have to believe in yourself and move in the direction of your calling yes. And believing in yourself. I think that's one of the that goes back to the whole pride thing. We it's almost like it's like a barrier that we, we can be prideful in. You know that, that fear, it comes back to it.
Speaker 1:And I've been there, israel I've had to unpack so much, I had to fix so many leaks that were broken in me. You know the lack of confidence, the self-worth, a lot of things that I didn't even realize that I had these leaks that I had to fix. I had these leaks that I had to fix, but knowing that I belong in certain spaces and places, and that's where God has aligned me with great people, I'll even say, like you, I got an email from you in my inbox that I probably shouldn't have seen and I'm like, whoa, this is an amazing guest, like, okay, let's, let's do this. And I, I will be honest, once I started, um, kind of researching you and looking at your level and stuff, that sense of unworthiness came upon me where I'm like, uh, this is like a high level guy, like he doesn't want to be on my little podcast. You know, like I don't know that I can, I can.
Speaker 2:No, absolutely, absolutely. I'm having like I don't know that I can, I can. Absolutely. I'm having a. I'm having a blast on your podcast.
Speaker 1:But no, that's out that those thoughts came across is real. I am being real, like those thoughts straight up came across. I'm like this guy is a tech talker, he's a high level coach, he's dealing with billionaires and all this stuff. I'm like I was a little intimidated, but then that's where, like God came in, like let's see, do you understand who I'm trying to align you with? This is where I'm taking you. You belong in these places to have these conversations with these people. Come on now. A hundred percent, yeah, but I kid you not. Two years ago, israel, I probably wouldn't have responded to the email. If I'm being completely honest, I had to do the work over these two years to get me to this place of one being confident, feeling worthy enough that I can align with people like you and even some of the other people that I've had on my podcast, you know.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:And it all comes with doing the work, though, and it's work that's hard, it's work that's challenging, it's work that we a lot of people just avoid because you have to unpack a lot, and that's where the complacency again comes in. People get complacent. You don't want to get out of your comfort zone. You don't want to deal with your feelings of unworthiness. You don't want to get out of your comfort zone. You don't want to deal with your feelings of unworthiness. You don't want to deal with your feelings of, or lacking self-confidence. You know, there's so much those emotions that we pack away, that we don't want to deal with, but it's important for us to not remain complacent in our emotions, to fulfill what God is calling us to do.
Speaker 2:Leslie, I just want to share this with you. First of all, your podcast is probably one of the best podcasts that I've been on, and I've been on several big shows and I share that because it's an alignment to the joyful order and it's an alignment. See, alignment is what's key and for people like you and I and the people listening, you know, we sometimes and this is this is where you really got some great mentors and teachers and people Sometimes we need to borrow someone else's belief in us until we get our own belief. You know, and that's what we do as mentors. We do as mentors.
Speaker 2:You said so many strong things on here today that I'm just like wow, because you're right, there's leaks not only in the business and that's what I teach but also leaks in the personal side, and the unique thing about our process is that when people come to our live events, the reason why we have live events is because there's things that we need to address. Live events. The reason why we have live events is because there's things that we need to address that's more than just business, and we do it at our live events. So you're really flowing and you're gifting. So States, keep doing what you're doing and I just wanted to encourage you here because flesh and blood didn't reveal to you what you're doing. It's a kingdom purpose, kingdom calling, and you're going to continue to inspire a lot of people, and hopefully we're inspiring a lot of people on today's episode as well.
Speaker 1:Oh, I am certain that you are speaking to so many today, israel, but thank you for that, because encouragement is just always needed. We do this podcast, and I say we because my husband is a big part of this podcast. He edits the podcast so he gets to sit and listen word by word to everything, and he's just a big part of this podcast. He edits the podcast so he gets to sit and listen word by word to everything, and he's just a big part of this also. And we do it as a ministry. We have said that from the beginning. When God called us to do this, this wasn't something that we were looking to scale largely. It truly was put on our hearts to do this as a ministry to serve others, to bring like-minded people, to help them to just really fulfill the things that God put on their heart.
Speaker 1:And I know that there are a lot of. You know I primarily have women as my audience and stuff, and there are a lot of women out there that struggle with identity and it's something that I struggled with for a long time and God is calling them to do something greater and bigger. But their lack of identity and their lack of doing the work, their complacency has caused them to remain where they're at and they're having those visions, just like what you said, like you were having these visions of being in rooms of millionaires. Like I have visions of the level of guests that I was having for this podcast. I still have visions that I know that God puts in my heart of spaces and places where he's going to have me speaking and teaching and leading and helping other women to fulfill their God-given purpose helping other women to fulfill their God-given purpose and complacency is just the thief of so many things. Complacency is the thief of joy. I'll start with that. Complacency is your inability to scale where God is calling you, and I want people to know and get to that level where they start to do the work.
Speaker 1:The work is hard. It is so dang hard. I'm still doing the work myself, but it is so worth it, and there's someone out there that needs to know that you are worth the work. Stop being complacent. Make the effort. Align yourself with people like Israel. If that's the scale that you want to go. Go all in and go. Put yourself in that room with Israel and learn. I learned so much from him. Right now you can come and get coaching with me as well and scale along with me where I can help you to get past and kind of fix some of those leaks. Now, israel, I can sit here forever. I do want to begin to wrap up and I want to honor your time. This conversation has just been packed with so much wisdom and I want to just ask a couple of fun questions. I always end on a fun note, just to allow my listeners to get to know you a little bit better. But, israel, what is something that you like to do that brings you joy?
Speaker 2:What is something that you like to do that brings you joy. You know I love this. My wife doesn't like this. Primarily she thinks it's boring, but I just love it. I love fishing. Oh okay, fishing is one of my things. I love to fish, I don't know, it's just peaceful, calms me and I just like it. My wife doesn't like it too much, though she's like wife doesn't. My wife doesn't like it too much, though she's like I don't know, I don't, I don't get you. You know she likes other things but other than fishing. I love to spend time with my children. That's number one. My family, I have five children and it's been, yeah, all within that, all with the a, a. They all begin with a and end with an el or il or el. Is that it means of god in the Hebrew, like Raphael, gabriel, ezekiel, israel, right? So, yeah, I mean I'm a big family guy and fishing is my thing and traveling I do. We do do a lot of traveling as well, but yeah, love it.
Speaker 1:Ok now, freshwater fishing or saltwater fishing? You know fishing, or?
Speaker 2:saltwater fishing. You know I love saltwater fishing, but I also like freshwater. It just depends. Okay, I lean to saltwater, but I have fun in both.
Speaker 1:Got it, my oldest son. He got into fishing and he's more like freshwater. We're big outdoors people too. You love fishing, we love hiking, and I think it's just that being in nature and being still kind of thing, right, is that it for you? With fishing yeah.
Speaker 2:First time I caught my fish Leslie was the first fish I caught my uncle gave me a little water bottle and he put string on it and he put a little hook and that's how I caught my first fish in freshwater. So I was hooked ever since.
Speaker 1:Oh, how fun, how fun. Yeah, we literally my son. He loves to go fishing, but he has yet to caught any real fish.
Speaker 1:He'll catch it, he will. I hope one day he's caught like little or throwback fish and he watch. If he ever hears me say that, mom, don't lie, I've caught tons of fish. He doesn't have luck with freshwater fish. I should say that Anytime he goes like freshwater fishing he doesn't come home with much. He goes pier fishing out here. That's a great thing. And of SoCal, he loves to go pier fishing and he, he, he does catch and release cause they'll catch like tiger, sharks, bat rays, crazy stuff like that. So I know a little bit about fishing, just because my my oldest son loves it. And what are the age of your children, Israel? And what are the age?
Speaker 2:of your children, Israel. My children are currently from eight years of age all the way to 10 months young.
Speaker 1:You are in the thick of it, israel. You are in the thick of it, dude. Oh, my goodness, you guys got your hands full, then, for sure. All right, so, and then my next question. Now, I don't even know that we mentioned this, but, israel, you have two books that you have authored and we're going to share that. I want you to share your two books, but I also would love for you to share if you have any other book recommendations of books that have impacted you on leadership, or books that you recommend your clients to read.
Speaker 2:The number one book that I recommend to read is the Word of God, the Bible.
Speaker 1:Amen, just to be direct.
Speaker 2:Yes, Word of God has 66 different books inside of it just for people to know 40 different authors, written by hundreds of years away, by the way, apart in terms of like the authors from royal kings to lowest peasants, so different social classes, and also from all the seven continents of the world. And God put his word together to be his holy word and it's kind of like when we use a pen to write a word God chose 40 men to pen his word. So everything I teach, everything I do, is aligned to principles of God's word. I work with Hindus, muslims, people in other faith and spiritual you know people that are other religions but everything I do, I teach, that's aligned in God's word.
Speaker 2:One of my, my first book I wrote was Money Measure Mindset. It's a book to help people get the mindset right so they can actually build wealth. And the second book I wrote is really the main thing that God's called me to really release and create a movement out of globally. It's called the Service of Speaking. I believe that God is raising up leaders, entrepreneurs, people in different areas of influence to shift industries, create movements and grow their businesses and nonprofits through the service of speaking, and that's been my main, I guess you could say vehicle that God's really been having us focus on in this season.
Speaker 1:So good. Now Israel, as we begin to wrap up, just kind of go into. I know you have some great things to offer. Just how my audience not only through your books, but how they can connect with you, get coaching from you, and I think you've got something special for the listeners today too, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So because it's you, leslie, I'm going to gift you. I'm going to give you, gift you and your audience a gift. Typically, this is something that we give out for a cost, but I'm going to waive the cost and all someone has to do if they want the gift. It's going to be my online business blueprint. It's going to show you how to create a six-figure breakthrough through the services speaking. So this is for anybody that you want to reach more people, you want to grow your businesses online. This would be for you. All you have to do is find me on Instagram. You go to Instagram, type in my name, israel Duran, israel, i-s-r-a-e-l. Duran. You DM me the word joyful.
Speaker 2:DM me the word. It had got to be joyful. Just DM me the word joyful, I will send you a quick video and we'll send you the free gift, okay. The second thing I'm going to give to you, though, because I know people are going to have questions. They always have questions when they go through. It is hey, but what about this? What about that? So I'm also going to include an opportunity for you to book a complimentary strategy session with me or a member of my team to help walk through how we can create a custom blueprint for you custom thing, right, identifying where your leaks are to help you break through to that next level, whatever that means for you. And that's a 30 minute session that you can book through the gift that we'll give you on our Instagram. So again, just DM me the word direct, message me that's what DM stands for the word joyful, and we'll send that over to you.
Speaker 1:Awesome and y'all listening right now. I will have all this info in the show notes and you guys can get the link in the show notes straight to his Instagram and all the links to connect with him with his Instagram Facebook website. Y'all just go to his website. I was on his website yesterday preparing for the show for well over an hour just watching your videos, listening to client testimonies, and I learned so much just through there, so y'all can go spend some time. I think it's, is it IsraelDurancom Right?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Okay, Israel, again, just thank you so much for sharing your insights and your wisdom today and to our listeners. I just want you to be reminded that if you were feeling stuck or complacent, I hope that this episode just has given you the inspiration that you need to kind of move past that. You know, Israel and I were praying for you, we're cheering for you and if this episode just really impacted you, make sure to go share it. Make sure y'all go follow Israel and until next time, friends, remember to keep chasing joy.